[DISCUSS] The Seven Deadly Traits… I mean sins…

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I’m going to put this in the simplest terms possible. The Christian god is a reflection of what man truly wants to be, the all-power, omnipotent ruler of all things, not because man/god is a worthy ruler, but because it is man’s/god’s right as the most intelligent thing in the world/universe. Just as man has his seven deadly sins, so the Christian god has his seven deadly traits.

Jealousy – God demands attention.

Envy – God demands your attention.

Gluttony – God doesn’t just want your attention, he wants everyone’s attention.

Wrath – God gets angry when he doesn’t get everyone’s attention.

Lust – God wants a ‘relationship’ with you to promote and bind you into giving him attention.

Sloth – God doesn’t do much to gain or earn our attention, but expects to get it anyway.

Pride – God thinks he’s worthy of our attention, despite demanding that we don’t act as he does, per the above.

Nothing really more to say than that. Discuss if you like. Cheers.

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2 thoughts on “[DISCUSS] The Seven Deadly Traits… I mean sins…

  1. I liked your thoughts here. As I’m sure you’ve read about the fMRI experiment that found that the same areas of the brain activated when asked what they think God wants, and what they want. As an invention of man clearly God must also have man’s qualities, good and bad. It might interest you to know though that when I was reading an article a English scholar wrote about how the 7 Narnia chronicles each centered around one of the seven deadly sins I learned that Lust was listed as Luxuria which was more than just having to do with sex, but rather a lust or desire for anything that pleases the senses, but could extend to money, fame, etc. If I were to relate God to that concept I would say that God, as an all powerful being can live a life of absolute luxury and simply does not have to deal with the same things we do every day. We struggle and strive, and most of us have barely a fighting chance and enjoying this creation in the least. And yet at the same time we are still expected to appreciate him, have a relationship with him, and are punished for not doing so even though there seems to be mounds of reasons to even believe in his existence.

  2. Virginia,
    It’s been a long time since I’ve commented on your site. I scan over it now and then but in the past couple of years have decided not to comment. I think there was a time when you were intensely searching for truth in regard to the Creator, and since then it seems to you are more fighting the idea of God than searching to know find Him. But God can meet you and show His love for you even in your opposition to Him. (But be prepared to be defeated, and to be defeated at the very core of your being, the seat of your heart’s argument against God, not just your head’s argument.) Anyway, though I have not commented on your articles, I do actually pray for you at various times in regard to your journey back to God, including just this morning. Far from the idea you expressed here of some sort of egotistical God demanding our attention, my sense is of a loving Father yearning for his daughter but giving her space, of His wanting your attention only because He knows that He is what you are looking for and the only one who can solace the deep yearning of your soul (You were made for God.) And in this sense, God wants everyone’s attention because He yearns for all his children just like any good parent would. Go d has nothing greater to give us than Himself. All the good you see in the world today – from love and romance to comfort, food, good things, all comes from God, and the evil you see in the world is not God-created, but rather a corruption of what God created coming from beings with truly genuine free will.

    In regard to pride, God does not say we should not think well of ourselves, only that we should not think of ourselves beyond what is merited. Romans 12:3 says “For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.” The lowly worm thing is not God’s idea of humility, but God’s idea of humility first insists on truth (the actual state of your relative greatness or place), then on love – that is, that true greatness is selflessly absorbed in the interests of the other, not one’s own greatness for greatness’ sake. Why does God then talk about his own greatness? Because we need to focus on what is perfect, and there is simply none greater or more perfect that God. God is also addressing our fallen nature which has falsely put ourselves in the place of God, which can only end in our destruction.

    In regard to anger and jealousy, anger and jealousy are legitimate responses to violated love (And we’ve discussed this before.) God is love, and love is not devoid of passion, or it is something other than love. It becomes flat and lifeless without passion. As far as God’s calling us not to “sin in our anger”, to love others when we don’t feel like it, etc., this drives more at the fact that in our fallen condition we are in no place to pass judgment. But God is in a place to pass judgment, and He can and will after grace has had its full opportunity.

    In regard to sloth, I think you may be confusing the fact that you are not hearing God with the false idea that He is not speaking. You, from the heart more than the head, are likely placing conditions and demands on God’s speaking. I can tell you right now that you cannot come to God on your own terms, and to attempt to do so is at the very heart of the fall and of all false religion, with man in his pride esteeming himself as God and thinking himself standing at such giddy heights as to be sufficient to evaluate the self-existent, eternally existent creator of all things. There is no bigger error than that, and from this error proceeds every other error and evil known to mankind. In your “Seven deadly traits” blog, you are not only assuming a place of being able to evaluate God, but going further and actually passing judgment upon God while in any other situation you would claim to deplore even the hint of “intolerance”. (Yet I noticed in your post “The Horrors of Heaven” that you are quite willing to “judge” your father as “good” and deserving of heaven far more than your mother, whom you judge as “hypocritical”. Are you adequate to judge either of them worthy or unworthy of Heaven or Hell?” Speaking for myself, I have been injured in life far more from people that remind me more of your description of your father than people who remind me more of your mother. “Nice guy” does not equal righteousness or even goodness. Might it be possible that you just sympathize with your father’s weaknesses more than you do your mother’s, in that you may share his same blind spots? (Just food for thought in the “for what it’s worth” department.)

    You seem to have this monstrous view of God, of authority, and of anyone that would place restrictions upon you. Could it possibly be that your father, who seems to be quite a “nice guy”, is not an adequate model for true righteousness, justice, and goodness, but that you just happen to agree with his model because it fits your preferences pretty well? Might your picture here, as in any picture based on an earthly father, be infinitely insufficient a foundation? Though his character traits undoubtedly reveal certain aspects that align with God (kindness, etc. ), in that mankind was collectively created in God’s image (though that image has been greatly distorted and disjointed through sin.), have you considered that your own foundation is not adequate to evaluate God and God’s motives? Might it be that in all of your twenty-something or thirty-somethings years of existence, that you simply cannot evaluate God from your own head, but rather need a revelation of God FROM GOD first, and your limited human abilities of reason will then (and only then) be able to affirm what God has revealed? I believe we will spend all eternity getting to know God, which just happens to be the amount of time we will have in heaven. God calls us not to lust, because the things we lust after will not satisfy. All things eventually tire us, disappoint us, and eventually bore us – even those things where we think “If I just had that, I’d be content! – be it a relationship, a job, money, or whatever – because we were created to enjoy an infinite God of whom we can forever “lust after”, if you will, and never come to the end of Him. We will be satisfied, even as He draws us to greater depths. Lust is only bad when we lust after things insatiably that will either destroy us or let us down, and every created thing has its limits; but God does not.
    Anyway, I invite you to respond to the things that capture your attention.

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